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Title: Psion Wizard Cerebremancer Spells Known
Post by: dragonbait23 on December 12, 2011, 03:28:41 AM
Should a Psion/Wizard/Cerebremancer gain 2 spells known per cerebremancer level? When I was leveling up a cerebremancer for HotU I only got to learn new powers on level up and not any new wizard spells.
Title: Re: Psion Wizard Cerebremancer Spells Known
Post by: Winla on December 12, 2011, 06:39:34 AM
As far as the PnP goes, the Sage FAQ has this to say:

Quote from: 3rd Edition Rules FAQ
Question: I can’t find any information about how many spells prestige class spellcasters know. I am going on the presumption that those that gain bonus spells per day of their existing class (such as loremaster and spellsword) do not automatically add additional spells to their spellbook as they gain levels.
Answer: They do add spells to their lists. For example, a wizard/loremaster gains 2 spells for her spellbook when using a loremaster level to increase spellcasting. A sorcerer/loremaster would learn more spells as well. Adding spells to your spellbook or personal repertoire is part of spellcasting.

But some people contend that the bonus 2 spells per class level are a class feature of the Wizard, listed under the Spellbooks section rather than in its own.  A search on the topic has some people mentioning an official WotC prestige class that agrees that you don't get the two spells, and I believe I've read that too.  Master Specialist, on the other hand, says you get the two spells as normal.



As far as NWN and the PRC goes, I -think- it's an engine limitation rather than a conscious decision based on any of the above.
Title: Re: Psion Wizard Cerebremancer Spells Known
Post by: xwarren on December 12, 2011, 06:53:00 AM
I always treated wizards free spells as a class ability - I've coded Archivist the same way: free spells on archivist levels, no free spells at prestige levels. It just seemd right to me, and I never even bothered searching other opinions on this matter. (I guess we can say that it was not a conscious decision ;) )

Winla is right - spell learning process is hard-coded (that's why we've added 'new spellbooks' for sorcerers and bards). We could add free spell scrolls as a workaround but (imho) it's just not worth the hassle.
Title: Re: Psion Wizard Cerebremancer Spells Known
Post by: Winla on December 12, 2011, 07:38:03 AM
Yeah, I've personally always interpreted the bonus spells to be a part of the "other benefits" it says you don't get.