Prestige Class: Red Wizard of Thay

[ThE LoSt BoY]

Mind Thayer Necromancer  “Necro-potence”

“Even the mighty Rakshasa fears me”

Human shifted Illithid betrayer, True Neutral, Wiz 5 /  Red Wiz of Thay 30 / Archmage 5

Stats:  Base [Race + Mods]
Str:        8       [ 10 ]        
Dex:     14      [ 18 ]    
Con:     14      [ 16 ]    
Int:       18      [ 38 ]    
Wis:     10      [ 16 ]
Cha:      8       [ 14 ]    

Pro’s: High (~73) Necro caster level, High (~ 46 / 52 + Spell Lev) Necro DC, 44th level caster, high SR race, Master of Elements & Shapes, 5 base epic spells, True Neutral (no Smites), skill points

Cons: Two prohibited schools, weak v. constructs (et. al. neg en immune), garbage Fort save, 1 dimensional build, ~0 melee presence, mediocre AC, Spell Power DC bonus does NOT apply to Tolodine’s Killing Wind (DC should be 66 with Necro bonuses) , Shaped Anti-Magic Shell (aka Antimagic Field) rarely works

Necro Caster Stack: d20 + 44 (caster) + 15 (Spell Power: Necro) + 6 (ESpell-Foc) + 4 (Foc-Spell Pen: Necro) + 1 (Tattoo: Necro) = d20 + 70 (v. 67 for L40 Rakshasa, 70 for L40 Max SR monk)

Illithid Necro DC Stack: 10 + Lev + 14 (20 Max Int) + 15 (Spell Power: Necro) +6 (Esp-Foc)+ 1 (Tattoo: Necro) = 46 (52 Max Int) + Lev

Human (non-betrayer) Necro DC Stack: 10 + Lev + 10 (16 Max Int) + 15 (Spell Power: Necro) +6 (Esp-Foc)+ 1 (Tattoo: Necro) = 42 (48 Max Int) + Lev

AC Stack: 10 (Base) + 3 Natural (race)  + 4 Dex (+10 Max) + 10 Imp Expertise (Parry) + 20 Epic Mage Armor + 4 Mantle of Egr Might (luck)  + 5 Shadow Shield (natural)  + 4 Tumble +4 (Shield spell) + 10 Big Interposing Hand (SR spell) = 74 (80 Max Dex)

Skill point “Saves” allows for quick re-rolls. Save skills, except as noted. Strictly level 40 build.

1 Wiz1: Tattoo Focus (Necro), Extend Spell (betrayer bonus)
2 Wiz2
3 Wiz3: Emp Spell
4 Wiz4: Int mod (1) [Int 27]
5 Wiz5: (Wiz 5) +8 Con, +8 Lore, +8 S-Craft, Max Spell (bonus)
6 RWoT1: Spell Focus: Necro
7 RWoT2
8 RWoT3: Int mod (2) [Int 28]
9 RWoT4: Spell Pen
10 RWoT5: (Wiz 5 / RWoT 5)
11 RWoT6
12 RWoT7: Int mod (3) [Int 29], Skill Focus: S-Craft
13 RWoT8: +8 Con, +8 Lore, +8 S-Craft
14 AM1: High Arcana: Master of Elements
15 AM2 (Wiz 5 / RWoT 8/ AM 2): High Arcana: Master of Shapes, Expertise
16 AM3: Int mod (4) [Int 30], High Arcana: Spell-Like Ability (SLA) I
17 AM4: High Arcana: Spell-Like Ability (SLA) II
18 AM5: High Arcana: Spell-Like Ability (SLA) III, Comb Cast
19 RWoT9
20 RWoT10: (Wiz 5 / RWoT 10 / AM 5) Int mod (5) [Int 31]
21 RWoT11: Gr. Spell Foc
22 RWoT12
23 RWoT13
24 RWoT14: Int mod (6) [Int 32], Gr. Spell Pen
25 RWoT15: (Wiz 5 / RWoT 15 / AM 5) Epic Spell Pen (bonus)
26 RWoT16: +13 Conc, +13 Lore, + 13 S-Craft
27 RWoT17: Epic Spells
28 RWoT18: Int mod (7) [Int 33]
29 RWoT19
30 RWoT20: (Wiz 5 / RWoT 20 / AM 5) Epic Spell Foc (bonus), Prac Cast (Wiz)
31 RWoT21
32 RWoT22: Int mod ( [Int 34]
33 RWoT23: Imp Expertise
34 RWoT24
35 RWoT25: (Wiz 5 / RWoT 25 / AM 5) Foc Spell Pen: Necro (bonus)
36 RWoT26: Int mod (9), Gr. Int I [Int 35, 36]
37 RWoT27
38 RWoT28
39 RWoT29:  Gr. Int II [Int 37]
40 RWoT30: (Wiz 5 / RWoT 30 / AM 5): Int mod (10) [Int 38], Imp Comb Cast (bonus), top off skills
Conc: 43, Discipline: 21, Lore: 43, S-craft:43, Tumble: 21

Notes:

1) Good Necro SLA candidates are: Wail (area Fort neg death), Horrid Wilt (area 25d8 Fort half damage), Maximized Undeath to Death (area kill 80 HD undead, Will neg), Empowered Finger o’ Death (single target Fort death or [made save] 1.5*3d6 + 44 damage), Avascular Mass (drain half single target hp [no save] + [Fort neg] stun + area entangle DC check)
2) If you battle opponents with more than 70 SR, add more Archmage Spell Power’s. 70 SR is max for the uber class: http://nwn.wikia.com/wiki/Improved_spell_resistance
3) Insightful Reflexes was added for a test-drive. Remove with PRC Leto if it doesn’t suit your taste.
4) If you don’t like Necro – use the PRC Leto to change the specialty
5) PRC Leto is here: http://nwvault.ign.com/View.php?view=Other.Detail&id=1417
6) Minor snafu with AB. You can bump using dm_modifyattack base 1, but it won’t stick.
7) Cast shaped Anti-Magic Shell (AMS, aka Antimagic Field) on everyone but you, then Necro-away. Sometimes AMS works, most of the time it doesn’t :@

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Mind Flayer humor

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/toon/20080401a

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Thayan Lich Necromancer

“Everyone is dying to join my legion.”

Human, True Neutral, Wiz 6 /  Red Wiz of Thay 24 / Lich 10

Stats:  Base [Race + mods]  
Str:        8   [ 8 ]  
Dex:     14 [ 14 ]    
Con:     13 [ 30 ]    
Int:       18 [ 38 ]    
Wis:     11 [ 21]      
Cha:      8  [ 18 ]    

Pro’s: Uber spell and DR def, High (~57) Necro caster level, High (~ 43 / 49 + Spell Lev) Necro DC, v. high caster hp (560 / 800 max), 10 hp / round regen (Fast Heal III + Transcendent Vitality), 34th level caster, epic spells, True Neutral (no Smites), skill points, no uber-race needed

Cons: Two prohibited schools, weak v. constructs (et. al. neg en immune), 1 dimensional build, ~0 melee presence, medium-low AC, Spell Power DC bonus does NOT apply to Tolodine’s Killing Wind (Max DC should be 57 / 63 Max with Necro bonuses)

Necro Caster Stack: d20 + 34 (caster) + 12 (Spell Power: Necro) + 6 (ESpell-Foc) + 4 (Foc-Spell Pen: Necro) + 1 (Tattoo: Necro) = d20 + 57 (v. 67 for L40 Rakshasa, 70 for L40 Max SR monk)

Necro DC Stack: 10 + Lev + 14 (20 Max Int) + 12 (Spell Power: Necro) +6 (Esp-Foc)+ 1 (Tattoo: Necro) = 43 (49 Max Int) + Lev

AC Stack: 10 (Base) + 2 Dex (+8 Max) + 20 Epic Mage Armor + 4 Mantle of Egr Might (luck)  + 5 Shadow Shield (natural)  + 4 Tumble +4 (Shield spell) + 10 Big Interposing Hand (SR spell) = 59 (65 Max Dex)

Save skills, except as noted. Strictly level 40 build.

1 Wiz1: Tattoo Focus (Necro), Extend Spell (bonus)
2 Wiz2
3 Wiz3: Emp Spell
4 Wiz4: Int mod (1) [19]
5 Wiz5: (Wiz 5) +8 Con, +8 Lore, +8 S-Craft, Max Spell (bonus)
6 Wiz6: Spell Focus: Necro
7 RWoT1
8 RWoT2: Int mod (2) [20]
9 RWoT3: Spell Pen
10 RWoT4: (Wiz 6 / RWoT 4)
11 RWoT5
12 RWoT6: Int mod (3) [21], Prac Cast (Wiz)
13 RWoT7
14 RWoT8
15 RWoT9: (Wiz 6 / RWoT 9) Comb Cast
16 RWoT10: Int mod (4) [22]
17 Lich1: Lich mod Int +2 [24]
18 Lich2: Gr. Spell Foc: Necro
19 Lich3: Lich mod Wis +2 [13]
20 Lich4: (Wiz 6 / RWoT 10 / Lich 4) Int mod (5) [25], Lich mods Con +12 [25], Cha +2 [10]
21 RWoT11: +16 Con, +16 Lore, +16 S-Craft, Epic Spells, cast Transcendent Vitality +5 Con [30]
22 Lich5 Lich mods Int +1 [26], Wis +1 [14] Cha +1 [11]
23 Lich6: Lich mods Int +1 [27], Wis +1 [15] Cha +1 [12]
24 Lich7: Int mod (6) [28], Lich mods Int +2 [30], Wis +2 [17] Cha +2 [14], Fast Heal I
25 Lich8: (Wiz 6 / RWoT 11 / Lich Lich mods Int +1 [31], Wis +1 [18] Cha +1 [15]
26 Lich9: Lich mods Int +1 [32], Wis +1 [19] Cha +1 [16]
27 Lich10: Lich mods Int +2 [34], Wis +2 [21] Cha +2 [18], Fast Heal II
28 RWoT12: Int mod (7) [Int 35]
29 RWoT13
30 RWoT14: (Wiz 6 / RWoT 14 / Lich 10) Fast Heal III
31 RWoT15: Epic Spell Foc: Necro (bonus)
32 RWoT16: Int mod ( [Int 36], +11 Conc, +11 Lore, + 11 S-Craft
33 RWoT17: Imp Comb Cast
34 RWoT18
35 RWoT19: (Wiz 6 / RWoT 19 / Lich 10)
36 RWoT20: Int mod (9) [37] (Wiz 5 / RWoT 20 / AM 5) Gr. Spell Pen, Epic Spell Pen (bonus)
37 RWoT21
38 RWoT22
39 RWoT23: Foc Spell Pen: Necro
40 RWoT24: (Wiz 6 / RWoT 24 / Lich 10) Int mod (10) [38], Dump skills
Conc: 43, Discipline: 21, Lore: 43, S-craft:43, Tumble: 21

Notes:

1) If you don’t like Necro – use the PRC Leto to change the specialty
2) PRC Leto is here: http://nwvault.ign.com/View.php?view=Other.Detail&id=1417
3) Used ModCON 5 to add the +5 Con from Transcendent Vitality

Enjoy.

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[Omesh]

I know this is a very big bump but I have a problem relevant to this thread.

When advancing in red wizard of thay class I do not get any new spells. But your uploaded character has a lot of spells. Am I doing something wrong?

[ZZGashi]

I know this is a very big bump but I have a problem relevant to this thread.

When advancing in red wizard of thay class I do not get any new spells. But your uploaded character has a lot of spells. Am I doing something wrong?

That depends, what is your base arcane spellcasting class? Wizard, Sorcerer?

Unless the prestige class specifically says that you gain new spells known when you level up in that class, like Cerebremancer, then you will only gain an increase in spells per day and caster level for your base class.

If it is a Wizard, then you have to learn your spells from spell scrolls, if it is anything else, then you need to level up your base class to get your spells.

Hope that helps.

[Omesh]

Yes my base class is wizard. It had not crossed my mind that I could learn spells from scrolls.

Thanks .

EDIT: For the Thayan Lich Necromancer build. You might want to check that you need to take craft wondrous item feat at level 11.