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May 21, 2012, 02:43:04 PM
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is there a guide somewhere that tells how to do an exact conversion of items from the D&D edition of planescape to 3/3,5?
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May 24, 2012, 01:09:15 PM
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is there a guide somewhere that tells how to do an exact conversion of items from the D&D edition of planescape to 3/3,5?

Kinda.
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May 24, 2012, 01:17:05 PM
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thanks. it does not explain how to convert eventual magic effects, like AC bonus or the elemental/spell immunity of AD&D but it's a start.
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May 24, 2012, 01:31:01 PM
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thanks. it does not explain how to convert eventual magic effects, like AC bonus or the elemental/spell immunity of AD&D but it's a start.

Quote from:  D&D Conversion Manual, pg. 20
Items You Shouldn’t Convert
A few items have been eliminated from the game altogether. These include any item that bestows a flat ability score or armor class.  Ability boosting items should instead provide an ability bonus of +2 to +6. Protective items should provide an armor, natural armor, or deflection bonus of +1 to +6.

Elemental Immunities & Spell Immunities can be converted directly.
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May 24, 2012, 01:53:48 PM
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so all items that provide armor class bonuses should be left outside?

well, AD&D did not know about resistance and reduction, only immunity.

all ability scores should be considered as a multiple of 3, right?
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May 24, 2012, 02:32:10 PM
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so all items that provide armor class bonuses should be left outside?

No, they are talking about items that set your AC to a given number.  Bracers of AC 2 didn't give you a -2 bonus to your armor class.  They set your AC to a flat 2 (which was good in AD&D).

well, AD&D did not know about resistance and reduction, only immunity.
That's fine too.  Feel free to convert an immunity to resistance or reduction or just leave it as an immunity, depending on how powerful said item is supposed to be.

all ability scores should be considered as a multiple of 3, right?
I don't understand the question.

Also, & I just thought of this, EN World may already have 3.5e conversion of the items you are looking at converting.
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May 24, 2012, 02:41:58 PM
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so, AC and THACO bonuses can be raised to that obscene levels?

the question: rules say that all ability bonuses can go from +1 to +6. since all items in PST give at maximum +3 to an ability, it is safe to assume that +1=+3, +2=4, +3=+6?
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May 24, 2012, 05:46:25 PM
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so, AC and THACO bonuses can be raised to that obscene levels?

the question: rules say that all ability bonuses can go from +1 to +6. since all items in PST give at maximum +3 to an ability, it is safe to assume that +1=+3, +2=4, +3=+6?

No, it was giving you a range to assign to an item, not a conversion.

Example:

AD&D has Bracers AC 8.  This is a weak magic item since it sets your AC directly to 8 & base AC in AD&D is a 10.  The lower the number the better.  Now when you convert that to 3.5e D&D you'd probably make them Bracers of Defense +2 since that would basically be the same AC modification.  A net of 2 points (or 10%) harder to hit.
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May 24, 2012, 05:54:09 PM
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I see. ability bonuses DO stack, however, right? I guess that would be more balanced.

what about items that give " + " bonuses to AC and THACO: which formula must be applied?
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May 24, 2012, 06:16:07 PM
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I see. ability bonuses DO stack, however, right? I guess that would be more balanced.

what about items that give " + " bonuses to AC and THACO: which formula must be applied?

That's in the book I linked you.  THAC0 & AC convert to 3.5e on a 1 to 1 basis.
Quote from: Conversion Guide, pg. 11
What’s New about THAC0 and Armor Class?

Characters in the new game no longer have THAC0s, and Armor Class now goes up instead of down.

Attack Bonus: Instead of a THAC0, a character has an attack bonus that applies to the character’s attack rolls. If the result of an attack roll equals or exceeds the target’s Armor Class, the attack succeeds and inflicts damage. To compare THAC0 to attack bonus, subtract THAC0 from 20. For example, if a character created under the 2nd Edition AD&D rules has a THAC0 of 18, she has about the same combat ability as a D&D character with an attack bonus of +2.

Armor Class: Now starts at 10 (the AC value for a Medium-size unarmored character) and goes up. There is no longer an upper limit to Armor Class. To compare Armor Classes between editions, take the earlier AC and subtract it from 20. For example, if a character created under the 2nd Edition AD&D rules has an AC of 5, she has about the same resistance to attack as a D&D character with an AC of 15.
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May 24, 2012, 06:20:07 PM
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so those bonuses would stay the same... more or less.
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May 24, 2012, 06:59:53 PM
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May 24, 2012, 07:08:24 PM
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can I post a sample weapon, so you can tell me if I convert it the right way or not?
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May 24, 2012, 07:35:56 PM
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Here is a freebie.  You'll need the CEP 2.4 & PRC 3.5 for this item, of course.

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BODICE OF THE GODLESS PRIESTESS
Armor Class: 5
Special:
   Memorize 3 Additional 1st Level Priest Spells
   Memorize 2 Additional 2nd level Priest Spells
Weight: 5
Usable only by Fall-From-Grace

This is a bodice much like the one Fall-From-Grace, Madame of the Brothel of
Slating Intellectual Lusts, often wears. The enchantments woven into it by
Goncalves allow Fall-From-Grace to memorize twice the number of 1st and 2nd
level spells per day as she normally could.

The 2nd Edition version gives a flat -5 to your AC, so I wanted to replicate that.  Leather Armor (+2) that has a +3 enhancement is basically the same.  Then I added the two levels of Divinity to finish it out.  Hell, the hard part was making it look somewhat like FFG's outfit.  :D
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May 24, 2012, 07:37:17 PM
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can I post a sample weapon, so you can tell me if I convert it the right way or not?

Sure.  I wouldn't say "right way" but if you are trying to stick to the rules as much as possible I can definitely get behind that.
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