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February 16, 2011, 08:46:28 AM

Hello, I've got Nwn diamond edition updated to 1.69 en., and prc 3.4,
got problems with following spells:

A) Main problem and big disadvantage when playing a caster :area-damage spells like Fireball, Horrid Wilting, Stone of Cold, Ice storm etc(but not clouds). don't damage every target in their area, what means some creatures (usually more than a half in the area) stay unaffected when the spell is cast.(but when I created a module with a two packs of goblins, one normal and one with immortal properity from aurora toolset,fireball-like spells worked properly on the immortal group)

B) Web and Delayed Blast Fireball always have 1 DC of relflex saving throw against them.

C) some summoning spells ie. Dragon Cloud don't work at all; call hordes, are unsumonning when resting (should serve a year according to spell description)  

D) Big problem with redirecting spells and ray-per-round spells,  like for example, rainbow pattern, crushing fist of spite, Lantern Light. don't actually  know how to use it, i tried with holding a charge but it still doesn't seem to work

E) When Mirror Images is casted, it create a lying corpse of the caster instead of copies.(my character was created by Leto for prc, with some feats manually added so maybe this is the reason?)

F) when alter self is casted, nothing happpend, i mean, i'm able to learn the shape, assign it to the quickspot but when I command to change a shape, nothing happens.

Any help, tips would be appreciated, especially with area-damage spells, cause wizard without a working fireball is not a true wizard;)
Thanks


February 16, 2011, 09:00:38 AM
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Hello, I've got Nwn diamond edition updated to 1.69 en., and prc 3.4,
got problems with following spells:

A) Main problem and big disadvantage when playing a caster :area-damage spells like Fireball, Horrid Wilting, Stone of Cold, Ice storm etc(but not clouds). don't damage every target in their area, what means some creatures (usually more than a half in the area) stay unaffected when the spell is cast.(but when I created a module with a two packs of goblins, one normal and one with immortal properity from aurora toolset,fireball-like spells worked properly on the immortal group)

B) Web and Delayed Blast Fireball always have 1 DC of relflex saving throw against them.

C) some summoning spells ie. Dragon Cloud don't work at all; call hordes, are unsumonning when resting (should serve a year according to spell description)  

D) Big problem with redirecting spells and ray-per-round spells,  like for example, rainbow pattern, crushing fist of spite, Lantern Light. don't actually  know how to use it, i tried with holding a charge but it still doesn't seem to work

E) When Mirror Images is casted, it create a lying corpse of the caster instead of copies.(my character was created by Leto for prc, with some feats manually added so maybe this is the reason?)

F) when alter self is casted, nothing happpend, i mean, i'm able to learn the shape, assign it to the quickspot but when I command to change a shape, nothing happens.

Any help, tips would be appreciated, especially with area-damage spells, cause wizard without a working fireball is not a true wizard;)
Thanks


A. I have no such problems - i've summoned 10 wolfs and killed 10 wolfs with my fireball, summoned dire rats and also killed them all. Not idea why it doesn't work for you.

B. I thought I've fixed that a while ago, will have to look into this again :/ | OK, i've fixed those two, if you find any other spell like that... you know ;)

C. A dragon from dragon cloud is summoned 1 min after casting the spell IIRC. Not sure about call hordes (thought it was never working, but call celestial servant should work OK)

D. Uhmmmm... have to test that ;p | Rainbow Pattern seems to be stationary, Crushing Fist of Spite and Lantern Light automatically choose next target.

E. Does your character have a bonus hit points (from items or bonus Constitution score)? It happened with my character after casting Transcendent Vitality.

F. I've recently tried Disguise Self spell, didn't knew something is wrong with Alter Self :/ - OK, tested. It didn't changed my characters appearance the first time I used it (only changed head, when it should turn him into half-orc), but it worked after that :/
« Last Edit: February 16, 2011, 11:30:24 AM by xwarren »


February 16, 2011, 10:56:58 AM
Reply #2

First of all, thanks for such a quick repost. Ok:

A) Perhaps, Leto Prc is responsible for it, perhaps prc CC, i will check it out, make new character and fire this spells. This problem have occured many thimes ie. in original campaign and some mode, however all of them was played with the same character. I'll check it.

B) as former

C) 1 minute of real time, may be it is ok. Now I have Evil character and cannot check again

D) When cast a crushing fist, it summons a invisible fist, that do nothing, it stays in a place, beeing attacked, but cannot be harmed - as it seems, nevertheless doesn't inflict any damage to anyone. Still don't know how to fire rays from ie. Eye of Beholder: cast spell on myself, gain skills bonus and nothing more happend or at least i do not know how make it work. But Generally the problem could be with spells descriprions, wich (assume where taken from PnP) say about redirecting, fire rays every round etc. so it seemed I took it to serious

E) funny thing, I lowered me char level, then  regain it back to level 40 and now it works properly. No idea why this bug ocuured, however it was happening in different versions of prc, usually working on lover levels, failing on higher.

Next couple of things:
Prismatic wall doesn't work at all, everyone can go through it with any effect.

Detect spells also fail. no matter how many undead is in the area, it says, "0 auras detected" or somehow similar. I tried also character and good/ evil detection with the same effect(using "use device" skill and casting them from scrolls).

If I discover something new i'll post it here and for sure I will:), but understanding that to many questions may become annoying especially when You don't have a lot of time to answer. Therefore there is no hurrry.
Once again thanks for patience and beeing helpfull


February 18, 2011, 02:16:55 PM
Reply #3

1)Indeen, apparently, area-spells bug, was fault of the character i've been using. Developing a new character resolved it. Thank You a lot!

2)Still confused with Crushing fist of spite, that causes nothing but summoning invisible creature, which stay calm. Any tips how to handle with, or it is general bug and nothing, at least now, can be done?

3)The same with prismatic wall, it would be a cool spell if it  works.
   
4) Then, a several new spells-problems(propably) I have found:

a)Invisibility bug: when under invisibility effect(Invisibility but also a greater sanctuary), and a cloud-like spell had been casted(i checked it on a cloudkill, acid fog and incendiary cloud), that affects the targets every round, every time one of the target is affected, invisibility is cancelled. Suppose it shouldn't work this way?

b) a few of nexromantic spells, all checked in varied situations:
-wrack: target is blinded, however should also be helpless and cannot take any actions, when it still attack me.
- curse of putrid husk: very simillar, target under the fear effect, but not fall unconcious after a round

Neveretheless, How did Prc developed arcane spellcastomg is something incredible - Scrying spells, epic like gemcage, enslave, planar cell, not to mention telleports, and hundreds more - extremely cool and useful.

Thanks, waiting for any solutions
« Last Edit: February 18, 2011, 02:18:25 PM by sulejmanwielki »